Talkin’ Nerdy: 10 Things We DON’T Want to See in the Next Fantastic Four Movie

It's Bombin' Time!

It’s Bombin’ Time!

With their latest Fantastic Four reboot (hereinafter referred to as “Fant4stic”), 20th Century Fox was attempting to make a new comic book movie franchise. Instead, they seemed to have created a new species: the Tank-a-Saurus.

Why can’t anybody make a good Fantastic Four movie? Is it really that hard? The elements for success are all there; why is it that every time this team hits the big screen, it turns into turd? Since it doesn’t look like there’s going to be a sequel to this movie, nay, we probably won’t be getting anything else Fantastic Four related for at least another 5 years, we at Twinsanity would like to offer to any Hollywood movie moguls who may consider rebooting this property yet again:

10 THINGS WE DON’T WANT TO SEE IN THE NEXT FANTASTIC FOUR MOVIE

  1. We don’t want to see the origin story again.

Seriously. By now there are as yet undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Peruvian jungle who know how the Fantastic Four got their powers. How about for a nice change of pace we start the next F4 movie with the team already established as famous adventurers, and they only briefly reference their back story for a 5-minute flashback sequence? We’d greatly appreciate that.

2. We don’t want the team to be Millenials.

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Stop making the F4 a teen team. For the next go-round, we’d like to get an adult Reed Richards, white temples and all, an adult Sue Storm-Richards (who’s married to Reed), an adult Ben Grimm and a teenage (or college age) Johnny Storm. The Fantastic Four don’t always have to represent the Pepsi Generation.

3. We don’t want them to be portrayed as superheroes.

A commenting poster on the interwebz recently referred to the Fantastic Four as their “least favorite superhero team”. That’s incorrect on 2 counts: 1) because they are in fact awesome and 2) they’re not superheroes. This tends to get glossed over, but the F4 are not, in fact, superheroes; they’re explorers and adventurers. Have you ever seen the F4 chasing down bank robbers? No, because that’s not what they do. They unravel the mysteries of the universe, further science and progress and explore the unknown, usually leading to expeditions into space and weirdo dimensions. One of the reasons why Guardians of the Galaxy did so well was because it was off-center from the norm, it wasn’t a traditional superhero flick with caped good guys smacking down criminals in a cityscape. A new Fantastic Four movie should take a similar approach. We’d do it like Jonny Quest with superpowers.

4. We don’t want Dr. Doom to be the villain.

“Now you face Doom…again!”

Come on, filmmakers. We’ve seen the team battle Dr. Doom. Thrice. Yeah, Doom is their greatest foe and all that good stuff, but he’s not the only member of the F4’s rogues’ gallery. Have them take on the Mole Man, Annihilus, the Wizard, Klaw, Psycho-Man, the Mad Thinker, the Sub-Mariner, the Kool-Aid Man. Somebody else. Anybody else!

5. We don’t want interracial Storms.

Let’s be clear: we have absolutely no problem with interracial families or people who adopt children of different races, and we likewise had no issue with an African-American actor being cast as Johnny Storm. But we say if you’re going to make 1 of the Storms African-American, then you might as well make both of them African-American. It just seemed as though the producers of Fant4stic wanted to eat their cake and have it too; they wanted to have a black guy on the team for racial balance while keeping Hollywood’s pretty white girl quotient intact. ‘Cause of course Reed Richards couldn’t  be romantically be involved with a woman of color. The leading lady of a movie couldn’t possibly be African-American! Oh no, no, no! Seriously, if we can have a white Ben Grimm dating a black Alicia Masters without everybody going nuts, then we shouldn’t have any problem with a Caucasian Reed Richards involved with an African-American Susan Storm.

6. We don’t want Reed and Sue to “just like” each other.

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This kind of ties into #2. So far, every cinematic depiction of the F4 chooses to start very early in Reed and Sue’s relationship, as if the very idea of a happily married couple of adult superheroes somehow makes for lame cinema. There are 2 words that counter that: One of them is The and the other is Incredibles. We’d like to see the next F4 flick start with Sue and Reed already married and having been married for some time; this way the romance is kept low-key and drama-free. Heck, just for the sake of variety, why not add their kids Franklin and Valeria Richards to the next film, since they’ve never been depicted on the big screen as of yet? That would help reinforce how in love Sue and Reed are by showing us how ‘biz-zay’ they’ve been getting.

Kid characters can work, provided they're not cast as Annoying Kid Characters Who Try To 'Help' The Heroes But Are Just Gratingly Annoying (see Spritle, Wendy & Marvin, Zack the 5th Ninja Turtle and Scott Tracker). Just keep their roles minimal, keep them young kids and don't make them ridiculously powerful. None of that 'Franklin is a god who can create pocket universes and Galactus becomes his herald' BS.

Kid characters can work, provided they’re not cast as Annoying Kid Sidekicks Who Try To ‘Help’ The Heroes But Are Just Gratingly Annoying (see Spritle, Wendy & Marvin, Zack the 5th Ninja Turtle and Scott Tracker). Just keep their roles minimal, keep them young kids and don’t make them ridiculously powerful. None of that ‘Franklin is a god who can create pocket universes and Galactus becomes his herald’ BS.

7. We don’t want them to not have an HQ.

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This also ties into #2. Since all the movies up to this point have portrayed the team as “Do the Dew” Millemials, they never have their own base of operations as the films always take place very early in the team’s careers. Since as previously stated we’d prefer to see the F4 as already established and famous super-adventurers, we’d like to see the Four Freedoms Plaza show up in the movies. All 100 floors, the hangar for the Fantasticar, the Negative Zone portal, Reed’s lab, the observatory, Roberta the robot receptionist, the ‘4’ insignia plastered on everything, all of it. Heck, we’d even be OK with H.E.R.B.I.E. the robot showing up, as long as he’d be kept in the background and wasn’t elevated to post-Q5 Slimer status.

8. We don’t want the black jumpsuits.

Those wack black jumpsuit things the team wore in Fant4stic were indicative of everything that was wrong with that film. They were trying too hard to make the movie grounded and serious, and the Fantastic Four was never meant to be grounded or serious. The F4 is about crazy science and wacky World of Tomorrow technology, and the team’s outfits should reflect that.

Stylin'!

Stylin’!

We want the garish bright blue costumes with the ‘4’ logo adorning them. Speaking of clothes…

9. We don’t want the Thing to be naked.

To their credit, Fant4stic got the look of the Thing pretty good, but did he really have to go around starkers?! We don’t know whether or not the Thing has a thing, but in any event we don’t want to see it. Personally, we’d prefer if Ben wore a shirt…

You can tell he's been to the gym.

You can tell he’s been to the gym.

…but we’d settle for some clothing as opposed to none at all. The poor guy’s had to deal with the loss of his human form and has to walk around as an orange rock monster, he’s suffered enough.

Give Ben some dignity...and some pants.

Give Ben some dignity…and some pants.

10. We don’t want to see anything like this:

That still causes me to wake up in a cold sweat!

Cartoon Country: Build Your Own Fantastic Four

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As regular followers of this site know, we’re pretty big Fantastic Four fans here. Maybe it’s because they’re the first superhero family, or how they’re technically adventurers and explorers more so than superheroes, or how they eschew the anonymity of secret identities (I hate secret identities with the fury of 1000 suns) in favor of celebrity status, maybe it’s because they’re rich, maybe it’s because they get to live in a 100 floor building which they own outright and has giant 4’s all over the top….

Or maybe it’s because they get to plaster their logo on everything they own. Makes it easy to keep track of your stuff.

Anyway, since the F4 will be getting a new reboot movie with some notable cosmetic changes; in which Johnny Storm and his dad are black but Sue Storm is curiously still white, the team have been re-imagined as model-pretty Millenials, Dr. Doom is a disgruntled internet blogger and the team jumps through a Stargate to get their powers instead of going into space. So I figured if those changes are permitted, then anything goes. Today’s Cartoon Country invites you (well, mostly me) to Build Your Own Fantastic Four.

The rules are simple: pick 4 characters that you find fantastic and if you think they’d look cool in blue spandex with a ‘4’ monogram on it, make ’em a team. The characters don’t have to be superheroes, or from Marvel, or even action stars, just characters you think are cool and would bring something decent to the table. But 4’s the limit of course. What makes a character fantastic?

“Being fantastic isn’t about being muscular or powerful or famous or dominant. It’s about using your special gifts and talents to help people and make the world in which we all live a better place.”

“Or just being named PIZZA STEVE!!”

OK. now that we’ve set the ground rules, here is the roster for my Fantastic Four.

1. TECNA (Winx Club)

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Most teams rely on high-tech, the Four Freedoms Plaza is full of crazy-cool gadetry, so a tech genius is necessary. Tecna is a freaking fairy whose magic power is technology. Tecna is fairy character made for a geek like me. What makes Tecna fantastic? Well, aside from possessing and IQ of 150, that’s 1-5-Oh-, her powers are entirely based on technology and digital energy, but, on occasion, she has been known to control electricity. She can create shields of green energy, which she ironically calls a “Fire Wall”. She can also create digital cages and walls of techno energy (called “Laser Cage” in the RAI English version), as well as throw blasts of green energy which can immobilize a person for a short time – or cause them to explode (called “Electric Storm” in the original RAI and RAI English versions). She can also create digital holograms (illusions) and traps which can restrain her foes. Tecna is able to manipulate any machine and is able to connect with different networks which she use as maps to help locate objects. She is able to shoot rays of digital numbers and use them as shields that protect her and others. Tecna thinks like a computer as she is able to scan object to gain information and speak binary code and is able to restore balance/order. Plus, anybody who’s outer appearance consists largely of purple and lavender is A-OK in my book.

2. SABRINA SPELLMAN (Sabrina the Teenage Witch)

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You know what the Fantastic Four doesn’t have? A magic guy or gal. I chose Sabrina because she’s endured over several series and comic book adaptations over the years (including a quasi-manga series), and she’s powerful, but not too powerful, otherwise they’d be able to magic their way out of any situation and life would be boring. Plus, she was once played by Melissa Joan Hart. Bonus. Also, her latest series on the former Hub network is now kaput, so she’s got some free time now. Cast those spells and sparkle on, girlfriend.

3. MONICA (Monica’s Gang)

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M’kay, this is an esoteric choice (hey, Jason told you in the last What Up? article that what we cover here would get esoteric at times, you can’t say we didn’t warn you) as this character is almost wholly unknown in the U.S., but nonetheless she fits the role as far as I’m concerned. For those who don’t know, here’s some background information:

Monica’s Gang (originally titled Turma da Mônica in Portuguese) is a popular Brazilian comic book franchise created by Mauricio de Sousa.

The series was originally based on a newspaper comic strip in which the protagonists were Blu (Bidu) and Franklin (Franjinha), launched by the newspaper Folha da Manhã in 1959. Over the years the series has been gaining a large audience, with new characters constantly being added to the lineup. Jimmy Five (Cebolinha) and Monica (Mônica) were eventually given their own comic books, hence the title “Monica’s Gang.” The characters and comics were eventually adapted into cartoons, video games, movies, theme parks and a wide range of products.

The stories revolve around the adventures of Monica and her many friends in the fictional neighborhood of “Limoeiro” in São Paulo. The neighborhood was inspired by the neighborhood of Cambuí, in Campinas and the city of Mogi das Cruzes, where de Sousa spent his childhood. Monica herself is a 7 year old, strong and decisive girl, who does not tolerate impertinence, but at the same time, has her moments of femininity, she will not let go of her blue stuffed rabbit called Samson (Sansão). This rabbit, which she loves so dearly, is also a weapon against boys. Monica frequently uses her superhuman-level strength to best neighborhood bullies, most notably Jimmy Five and Smudge.

I deliberately wanted to go against the grain with the team’s strongest member; I didn’t want the team’s muscle to some big, bulky guy; making the powerhouse of the team some huge Crunch McRockAbs would be what everyone would expect. A little 7-year-old who’s a bone-crusher? Sign me up.

4. JUMPY GHOSTFACE (Hero: 108)

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Another thing the Fantastic Four has never had is an animal member. Yeah, they had H.E.R.B.I.E. the robot for a brief time, but that doesn’t count. As followers of this site know from past articles, I’m a big fan of Jumpy Ghostface. Like Monica he’s deceptively powerful; able to utilize a jump rope as a weapon and wrap his ears around his head like a ninja mask. I’m big on cutesy characters capable of kicking ass. ‘What’s his super power?’ you ask? You kiddin’? He daydreams battle strategies and solutions, even in the heat of battle, and whoever stares too closely at his swirling eyes while in daydream mode will get swept into his fantasy. Anyone who says imagination isn’t a superpower will get a lengthy lecture from the folks at the Children’s Television Workshop. Plus, I freaking love that name: Jumpy Ghostface. It’s adorably disturbing.

So there you have it. My Fantastic Four. A little off the beaten path, but still unique and entertaining. You’ll also notice that 3/4 of my quartet are female, this is intentional. Male dominated teams are a dime a dozen, again, I wanted to do something different. So now that our team has been assembled, there’s one question that needs to be addressed.

'HOW SOON UNTIL THEY FACE DOOM???

‘HOW SOON UNTIL THEY FACE DOOM???”

Ah, no. Something much more pressing…

Who's got the keys to the Fantasticar?

Who’s got the keys to the Fantasticar?

Toons & Tunes: Fantastic Four Cartoon Openings

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In honor of the upcoming Fantastic Four reboot movie from Marvel and the fact today is April 4th (4/4–I couldn’t have planned that better if I tried) I’ve decided that now is as good a time as any to go over some of the various opening themes from the various Fantastic Four cartoons over the years.

First up, we’re goin’ all old-school on ya with the 1967 F4 cartoon opening:

-A bit dated by today’s standards, but still iconic and full of action. My rating: B.

“Hmm. The dichotomy of order and chaos in that opening calls to mind the paradoxical thought experiment known as Schrodinger’s Cat, as devised by Austrian physicist Erwin Schrödinger in 1935. It illustrates what he saw as the problem of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics applied to everyday objects. The scenario presents a cat which may be simultaneously both alive and dead, a state known as a quantum superposition, as a result of being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur.”

“Ahh, stow it, Dictionary-Breath! Yer borin’ th’ blogosphere! If these folks wanted ta learn stuff, they’d go ta Wikipedia!”

Next up, the 90’s syndicated Marvel Action Hour. This block boasted 2 openings for the team. Here’s season 1’s intro:

OK, this one’s a tad corny, but I think it sums up the goofy, upbeat nature of the team’s adventures pretty well. My rating: A.

“Yeah, I really like the ‘Just 4. No more. Now that’s numerical!’ part. Some people think that opening was too silly, but I personally thought it was OUTTA SIGHT! -What? So lame puns are only funny when you guys do them??”

Now, season 2’s intro:

I guess the producers felt the first opening was a tad too campy and wanted something more serious and epic in tone, but I personally found this intro to be a tad generic; it could have been for any superhero show in the 90’s. But still, it’s not without its’ merits. My rating: B-.

“DUDE! That opening gets me PUMPED! Makes me wanna blaze through town in search of hot babes in my souped-up ride! But then, breathing makes me wanna do that too! Am I right? Up-top!”

Finally, the opening to Cartoon Network’s Fantastic Four: World’s Greatest Heroes. A vastly underrated show, IMO.

(Note how Victor Von Doom was accompanying the team into space during the initial shot. This series was made hot on the heels of those live-action movies, but we’ll forgive them for that.)

Honestly the only thing I didn’t like about FF:WGH was Ben’s outfit. A ‘4’ spray painted on the chest? Really? Plus, the white gap on Ben’s pants made it look like he was in his low-riding underwear.

“Yeah, those weren’t exactly the most stylin’ duds, but whaddaya want? It’s hard to find clothes in my size. I gotta get my stuff from Prof. Fashion’s Boutique for the Big, Tall an’ Freaking Huge!”

Not as good as the others, but still pretty good. Of course now, I’ll be hearing that “aaAAaaah!” in my head all day. My rating: B.

So there you have it. The intros to the Fantastic Four cartoons.

H.E.R.B.I.E.

“Hey, you didn’t cover the ‘New Fantastic Four’ cartoon from 1978, you know the one with me in it! Yeah, I was a member of the Fantastic Four, for a few months!”

“Nobody cares about that cartoon, brah. Know why? ‘Cause I wasn’t in it! I was totally workin’ on a solo movie deal during that time. It didn’t happen, but I totally spent that money! BTW, Hollywood, I’m still available for movies, guest shots and reality shows. And the ladies! Which reminds me: anybody wanna see my butt-ring?”

‘Kay, let’s wrap this up. Now!