Anime Superhero…Where You At?

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For those who don’t know, the Anime Superhero Forums (animesuperhero.com), which both Damon and I are members of, has been down for repairs since February 3rd, and it’s now March 23rd and the site still hasn’t been fixed yet. The forum’s moderators have assured us that the site will return, but no one can say exactly when.

However, someone has since created a temporary AS forum that can be used while we’re waiting for the real one to return. animesuperherotemp.freeforums.net.

Neither of us have created an account there yet (Honestly, I don’t know if it’s worth it), but in the meantime, we’re both still here of course, and also are still on Tumblr. If you’re missing the Anime Superhero Forums, you can visit the temporary AS site. You know, if you feel like it.

158 thoughts on “Anime Superhero…Where You At?”

  1. Ironically, ASF went down shortly after I started to take a mini-sabbatical from it; I was getting tired of all the negativity. Granted, there hasn’t been a ton of positive animation news to report or discuss so far this year, what with Disney planning even more live-action remakes of their classic films, streaming services cancelling and/or dialing back on animated projects in general, coupled with Zaslav and Warner Bros. Discovery’s nonsense (yeah, we got some possibly good news from CN’s new prez Michael Ouweleen about Cartoon Network’s future three months ago, but I haven’t heard a solitary peep about CN or WB Animation since then beyond adult cartoons, which I’m generally not that into — Sidebar: last night I watched the first episode of Digman! on Comedy Central because there was nothing else on; it wasn’t Brickleberry bad but it wasn’t anything I need to go out of my way to watch, sorry–so while I will be glad when the site returns (as there are good people on there that I enjoyed conversing with), I’m kind of enjoying the break from it right now.

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  2. Yeah, I admit that I’m not so much interested in returning to the Anime Superhero Forums as much as I’d like to maintain contact with my online friends/colleagues on the Anime Superhero Forums that I can’t converse with otherwise, since I’m not on Twitter (Twitter was toxic even before Muskrat took it over, now it’s just more of a right-wing cesspool) or Facebook or anything. I’ve considered joining Reddit, but I’m not really sure how that site works.

    Also, you’re right about the AS Forums being mostly gloom-and-doom talk over the last few weeks and months, and I don’t need to be surrounded by negativity. And before anyone suggests that Damon and I start our own forum, we did that back in 2004-2005. I’m not interested in maintaining another message board; I just want to create and talk about cartoons and geek culture stuff.

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  3. I’ve been hoping that the forums would’ve been fixed sooner since there’s plenty of news and ideas that I wanted to talk about (such as how good Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur is, the cast for Star Wars: Young Jedi Adventures, clips and thoughts on how good Barbie: Skipper And The Big Babysitting Adventure is, and the unfortunate cancellation of Ridley Jones).

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    1. Well, Random Twinsanity’s no longer pinned, but it’s still open. If you like, you can post news and opinions in the comments section of that post, or even this one, until ASF is back up.

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  4. So 2 weeks ago, a new Disney Channel show came out called Kiff. The show is created by South African creators Lucy Heavens and Nic Smal (with Kiff being some kind of slang being cool). Kent Osborne (who worked on shows like SpongeBob SquarePants, Camp Lazlo, Phineas And Ferb, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, and Summer Camp Island) is the show’s story editor. It’s a show about a squirrel named Kiff (voiced by Kimiko Glenn) and a rabbit named Barry (voiced by H. Michael Croner) going on all sorts of misadventures in the town of Table Town. Animation is done by Titmouse. Though mainly known for action shows like Motorcity and Niko And The Sword Of Light, they’ve also done comedies, such as Future Worm and Bless The Harts. The show’s creators have stated that the show has many notable comedic influences, including Animaniacs and SpongeBob SquarePants. You can watch the first episode on YouTube if you’re interested in checking it out.

    https://www.animationmagazine.net/2023/02/kiff-creators-lucy-heavens-nic-smal-gives-us-the-scoop-on-their-colorful-disney-comedy/

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    1. Yeah, I’ve seen ads for Kiff!. It’s on Disney Plus too, IIRC. It looks…interesting; I may check this one out. I’m not crazy about the characters’ big beady “deer-caught-in-headlights” eyes (a nitpick I also had about Comedy Central’s Digman!), but I’m happy to see Disney launch a cartoon that’s a pure comedy (with a female lead no less, and one who has other things on her mind besides falling in love), not another superhero show (I can’t make myself interested in Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, though I hear it’s good; I’m just going through superhero fatigue right now) or an arc-heavy genre buster like Amphibia or The Owl House; shows like those just aren’t my jam, but I remember reading Disney saying that The Owl House would be the last show of that nature that they were going to greenlight for a while.

      Now if we could just get an all-ages comedy cartoon starring the Sensational Six.

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      1. 1. I think it’s more that there could still be story driven shows made, but made more for Disney Plus and less for Disney Channel. Though it’s worth noting how a show like Hamster And Gretel (which is also an action comedy like Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur) is slowly building up more story driven elements, but has a heavy comedic tone. I do wish Kiff premiered a few months later since it’s somewhat overshadowed by Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur (which I like).

        2. In regards to that last comment, I don’t know if there could be a show like that in the near future. The status of the Paul Rudish Mickey Mouse shorts (Mickey Mouse 2013/The Wonderful World Of Mickey Mouse) is currently unknown. There’s 20 regular episodes on Disney Plus and the seasonal specials from last year, but nothing has been said about the show’s future after that. It’s also unknown if Disney is going to greenlight a non-preschool Mickey show in the future given how the more safe versions of the characters in the Disney Junior projects are still going strong. I mean, Mickey Mouse Funhouse was greenlit for a season 3 before season 1 even finished airing.

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  5. Warner Brothers has both Looney Tunes Cartoons and Bugs Bunny Builders. I don’t see why Disney couldn’t do both. After all, the Mouse House had no issue with running the 2017 DuckTales reboot at the same time as the Disney Junior Mickey & Friends shows.

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    1. I think the reason why stuff like Bugs Bunny Builders and Looney Tunes Cartoons can run at the same time similar to the Disney Junior Mickey Mouse shows and non Disney Junior projects is that each show has something that the other show doesn’t. It’s most likely for marketing so that kids don’t get confused about which shows are made for which kinds of kids. Case in point, Bugs Bunny Builders takes place in a location specific to that show (LooneyBerg), which doesn’t pop up in Looney Tunes Cartoons (a show that doesn’t use locations that are specific to it). Daffy’s cousin Billy is created for the show, but I don’t think she’d pop up in non-preschool media. There’s also how the Looney Tunes Cartoons Halloween special came out the same week as new Bugs Bunny Builders episodes, but that’s the only time the shows had premieres around the same time as each other. They’ve otherwise never intersected when it comes to when they drop episodes.

      The same case can apply to the Disney Junior projects and how each show has things that aren’t in others. Case in point, Duckberg is in DuckTales 2017, but not Mickey And The Roadster Racers. In a similar vein, Hot Dog Hills and characters like Cuckoo Loca and Billy Beagle are specific to the Disney Junior shows, but have never been used outside of Disney Junior shows. Donald has an Uncle Manny in Roadster Racers, with said character being made for that show and nothing else. While the Disney Junior shows have aired at the same time as non-Disney Junior shows, the fact they’re all CGI as opposed to 2D animation probably helps people more clearly see which shows are made for which audience.

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  6. Thank you guys for promoting the temp forum on this blog! (I’m the guy who started it.) There had been zero activity since I started it a month ago and was starting to give up hope. Then I checked it out after seeing your post and noticed that people are posting there now. Thank you for reinvigorating my faith in this forum.

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    1. No problem. 👍 I figured that one reason why there wasn’t a ton of activity on the temporary forum was because a lot of people weren’t aware of it, so we’d at least let folks know that it’s out there while their waiting for Anime Superhero.com to come back.

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    1. If My Adventures with Superman and Unicorn: Warriors Eternal are going to be occupying [adult swim]’s newly acquired 7PM hour (and that’s what it’s looking like), then clearly Mr. Ouwleween is relaxing what constitutes as “adult” animation. It would appear that the first hour or two of [adult swim] will instead be a less extreme Toonami, or a Miguzi 2.0, if you will, and you know what? I’m not totally against this idea. Fans have been wanting to see action cartoons return to CN for years now, and this might just be the thing to scratch that itch, then the adult animated comedies can still later at night. This also leaves Cartoon Network 7 hours to be Cartoon Network, now that Cartoonito ends at 12 noon.

      And before anybody starts in with the expected “RIP Cartoon Network” rhetoric, WBD is teaming up with Corus Entertainment to produce a new Total Dramarama special, so the CN brand is still very much in effect, and Mr. Ouwleween claims that CN Studios will be co-existing alongside WB Animation, not synergizing with it or being swallowed by it.

      This seems to be tying in to Ouwleween’s previously mentioned plans to remake CN into an all-ages animation brand, and if we get new, good shows from it, Cartoonito isn’t killed for it and the likes of Looney Tunes and Hanna-Barbera aren’t forgotten, then I’m OK with that.

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  8. Interesting. Just this morning, I read an article on Deadline.com that Adult Swim may be starting at 7 PM by May 1st, and that Unicorns: Warriors Eternal would be airing on AS. I still think that 7PM is too early for an adult programming block, but it’s not too bad, considering that with Cartoonito now ending at 12 noon instead of 2 PM, that still leaves CN with 7 hours of programming before transitioning into AS.

    It’s looking to me that Michael Ouwleween is attempting to blur the line between Cartoon Network and Adult Swim, which I guess isn’t too surprising what with the FOX shows exiting AS due to Fox Entertainment now being owned by Disney. I say if CN is going to expand AS’ audience to include big kids as well as young adults, then they should remove the word “Adult” from the block’s name. They could use a name that Damon (Silverstar) suggested on this site years ago: CN PM.

    It almost seems like CN US will undergoing a change similar to what’s already happened in Canada (As of March 27, Teletoon was re-branded as Cartoon Network Canada and Cartoon Network Canada was re-branded as Boomerang Canada. Perhaps Boomerang US may eventually be re-branded as the new Cartoon Network while CN US will become…something else.

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  9. Hey there, Star Bros. It’s me, JMTV. This is my first time commenting on your blog. I know about your blog for a while now, and I read your stuff numerous occasions, and I do enjoy it.

    Ever since Anime Superhero Forums went down in February, I was taking a bit of a time off from this site beforehand because of how toxic and negative it is. I’ve been going through rough shit IRL as it is (not sure if it’s okay if I can curse on here, but you know what I mean), but adding another layer of negativity and toxicity on ASF just makes me want to blow my head off. So I need to step away for awhile for the sake of my mental health.

    However, there’s a lot of animation news that has been going on for the past couple of weeks that I really need to talk about something in order to get things off of my chest.

    It’s been a month Anime Superhero Forums went down and I’ve not heard any updates since
    then. I did tried and visit to other alternatives, but most of them either not that good or weren’t very active as ASF was.

    Now, I’m going to be commenting on Twig Images since I love talking to you guys and it’s pretty active on here, but it’s going to be temporarily until Anime Superhero Forums comes back, for who knows how when. I’m new to how WordPress actually functions, so it’s gonna take time for me to get used to it.

    So yeah, here I am.

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  10. Welcome, JMTV. Glad to have you aboard! 👋 I haven’t joined the temporary site yet either, because it’s not terribly active right now and I needed to take a break from Anime Superhero.

    You can post/comment here as often as you like, and yeah, you can curse here if you want. Just as long as you’re not harassing anyone.

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    1. Thank you, Goldstar. 🙂

      I’ve seen the temporarily ASF site for a bit. I didn’t signed on there (and have no interest in it) since it wasn’t as active as much, but it’s nice to see that someone was able to kept the legacy of ASF alive until real one recovers soon.

      (and also, yay, I can finally curse. And trust me, I will never harass anybody.)

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  12. Yeah.

    Hi JMTV! Long time no hear!

    So, have you seen Kiff and/or Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur yet?

    Other than that, yeah, at this point, they might as well rename Adult Swim to CN NITE, not unlike what they in Japan.

    And y’all beat to me reporting that news of the site coming back.

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    1. Hey there.

      No, I haven’t seen Kiff nor Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. I only seen bits and pieces on some of the promos. It just not for me. I have no interest in watching them.

      I don’t know if they can change Adult Swim to CN at Nite since brand recognition and popular programming are one of the main reasons why Adult Swim are still around today, but what do I know?

      TBH, I’m not a fan of Adult Swim all that much, so seeing them getting the 7pm slot was unnerving to me, but not surprising. At this point, I don’t really care.

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  13. I once made a thread about this on the forums, but I figure I can also talk about it here. There’s something interesting when you compare a certain aspect of these 4 shows, My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic, Littlest Pet Shop 2012, Polly Pocket 2018, and Strawberry Shortcake: Berry In The Big City. They’re all young skewing, slice of life, girl centric shows produced by DHX Media (known as Wildbrain for the past few years) that have one thing in common, a mean girl character. There’s Diamond Tiara for MLP, The Biskit Twins for LPS, Gwen Grande and later on Bella Bigowski in Polly, and Raspberry Tart in Strawberry. However, I think the timeframe of when these shows came out determines how they’re written. The former two came out in the early 2010s while the latter two came out in the late 2010s/early 2020s.

    Diamond Tiara is the typical mean girl in how she keeps picking on the Cutie Mark Crusaders for not having a cutie mark. She was seen as a divisive character due to how much she did it on top of not having enough depth at the time. The season 5 episode “Crusaders Of The Lost Mark” does attempt to give her some depth, though not everyone thought it was executed well. Regardless, after this, you’d think she’d be fleshed out more, but she ended up being relegated to background appearances. Series director Jim Miller mentioned how he and the writers wanted to flesh out her character more, but then Hasbro thought her story was done and didn’t want her to be used anymore.

    And then we get to LPS, with the Biskit Twins having a similar role in how they keep picking on Blythe. They’re also similarly divisive, but to a more notable degree because of how it seems like they’ll be nicer people, but then they turn back to normal. Season 4 does attempt to give them more sympathetic appearances, or at least times when they aren’t antagonistic. Season 5 probably would’ve made them more likable, but then Hasbro cancelled the show after season 4, with Julie McNally Cahill saying how low toy sales caused this.

    That brings us to Polly Pocket 2018. The character of Gwen Grande is the dimwitted granddaughter of Griselle Grande, and thus tries to help her steal Polly’s locket that can grow and shrink things. Some episodes like “Con Job” show how she doesn’t always see eye to eye with her and just wants a normal life. She’s also shown to be nicer than her even if still an antagonist, though she’d still pick on Polly when left on her own. Presumably, season 2 could’ve made her a friend to Polly if she was developed more. However, after season 1, the show went on hiatus for 2 years, and when season 2 came out, the show would undergo extreme changes. This included going from 22 minute episodes to 2 11 minute segments, and writing out the Grandes as if they never existed. Why that’s the case is still unknown since there’s still no official explanation for it after all these years. However, season 2 did introduce Bella Bigowski, who fills the same idea. Coincidentally, she and Gwen are both voiced by Rhona Rees. Anyway, Gwen was introduced early on in the season (I think the third episode), where was shown to be a Kerpow (the show’s version of karate) rival to Lila. She would pick on her and boast about how she was better. She makes a few appearances where she’s like this, but then in “Halloween Queen” (the second segment of the 11th episode), we find out more about why she’s like this. Lila kept beating her at everything throughout the year, and she wanted to prove how good she was. The two they have an exchange where they talk about how they’re great people and are equally skilled, and become friends afterwards. She then finds out about Polly’s locket secret in the season 2 finale (which is episode 13), and from season 3 onward, she’s officially a friend to Polly and goes with her in adventures. She can still be somewhat critical, but she’s much nicer and more well meaning. We even find out in season 3 that’s she’s a duchess and she doesn’t want to be treated all fancy like. That’s pretty interesting.

    Now we talk about Raspberry Tart from Strawberry Shortcake: Berry In The Big City. Unlike other versions of the character, she starts out as more an antagonist in wanting to prove she’s a better baker than Strawberry. However, her antagonism is also not shown too often. Of her 6 appearances in 2021, she’s an antagonist in 4 episodes, and the other 2 (a Christmas episode and a New Year’s Eve episode, the final episode of the year) show her in a somewhat prickly, but friendlier light, actually getting along with Strawberry somewhat. After that, she had a large absence, and when returning in the second half of the season, she becomes more a reluctant ally. Though still critical of Strawberry, she doesn’t antagonize her anymore, even teaming up with her when they have a common goal. The episode with Johnny Cake Cobbler (who’s a conman) showed that they could be friends, but are hesitant to approach each other about it. The episode right after that, which is about throwing Raspberry a surprise party, reveals that she has parents who aren’t that attentive, thus earning more sympathy from the audience. This then leads to the season 1 finale Bake Off, where she competes against Strawberry, but doesn’t antagonize her. In fact, when she thinks Strawberry deliberately sabotaged her, she’s shocked. This then leads to a food fight where they have fun and officially become friends. Similar to Bella, she can still be somewhat critical, but is still more open to helping Strawberry when she needs it.

    It’s definitely something to think about.

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    1. @sofiablyth2014:

      Generally, I feel that if a show must have regular antagonists, it’s better when they have an actual reason to be against the protagonist rather than being mean just for the sake of being mean. Of those examples that you listed above, the only ones that I’ve seen are Diamond Tiara and the Biskitt Twins. In the case of Diamond Tiara, I like how Diamond Tiara turned babyface and stayed that way for the remainder of the series. It wasn’t a one-time-only thing where DT went right back to hating the Cutie Mark Crusaders by the end of the episode.

      One reason why the Biskit Twins didn’t work for me was because their antagonism felt very forced to me because Whitanny (sp?) and Brittany had no reason to hate Blythe; it was “we’re the bad guys, so we have to do bad guy stuff”. Initially the show’s writers tried to say that the Biskits disliked Blythe because she didn’t drop down to her knees and worship the 2 of them when they first met, but here’s the thing: no one ever worshipped them. The other kids all either actively disliked the Biskts or were just indifferent to them. We never saw even Whittany and Brittany hanging out with any other kids, so it’s not like they had a clique or anything. I particularly didn’t like it when an episode of Littlest Pet Shop would end with the Biskits getting away without receiving any kid of come-uppance (“The Nest Hat Craze”) or worse, be given a happy ending that they didn’t deserve “Fued for Thought”, “Two Pets for Two Pests”).

      One thing that I do like is that all 3 characters were revealed to have mothers who are alive and well, thus turning the tired trope of the dead/missing mother on it’s ear. I did think it was funny when the Biskit Twins’ mother Eliza showed up on the season 4 premiere and Whittany asked her “Where have you been for the last 3 seasons?”

      @jackelmagnet76:

      I likewise haven’t seen Moongirl and Devil Dinosaur yet, despite my having Disney+. I’m just kind of super hero-ed out right now. I need a break from capes. I haven’t seen an entire episode of Kiff yet. I saw a clip of of it and it looks…fine. Nothing about it made me laugh out loud, but I wasn’t repulsed by it. It almost looks like Disney is trying to have their own SpongeBob Squarepants, which is OK. The only thing about Kiff that I don’t care for are the characters’ enormous bugged-out eyes, like a deer in the headlights.

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    1. I wish I could edit comments. Anyway, here’s the official article on Taz: Quest For Burger. It’s written by Bryan Condon (who worked on Thundercats Roar and Aquaman: King Of Atlantis), directed by Ryan Kramer (who worked on Looney Tunes Cartoons and Uncle Grandpa), and is produced by Mark Marek (who worked on Kablam and MAD and co-created Yabba Dabba Dinosaurs).

      https://www.animationmagazine.net/2023/04/all-new-looney-tunes-movie-taz-quest-for-burger-spins-to-digital-in-june/

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  15. This is probably the sort of thing I’d post on Anime Superhero if it were up:

    Am I the only one on YouTube who’s not having a fangasm about Lackadaisy? I saw the pilot short and yes, it looks really good, definitely a beautiful piece of animation considering it was made without a huge budget or the backing of a major studio, but I have zero interest in the premise, characters or subject matter. Everyone else on the internet is absolutely gushing over this cartoon, and I just don’t get it.

    Who is this supposed to appeal to, aside from furries? There’s no reason for the cast to be anthropomorphic cats, they just are for some reason (though they occasionally do cat-like things like hiss, purr and wag their tails around). Fine, but then it dares to try and have mature subject matter, complex plots and layered characters. Really? Figure out your tone, Lackadaisy. You can have your cartoon about 1920s era cats running a speakeasy, but don’t then expect me to take it seriously. Shows like Lackadaisy give me category placement trouble; it’s not funny enough to be a comedy, not serious enough to be a drama. What is it?

    -That said, I could watch this all day.

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    1. This one looks like Reddit.

      This temp forum is actually made by some of the moderators of the official Anime Superhero Forums. However, it’s still got a few bugs that need to be worked on. I haven’t yet decided if I’m going to post on either of the temporary forums yet, but if I do, it will be one or the other, not both.

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      1. I did tried the temp forum, and I gotta be honest, I wasn’t really feeling it.

        The UI felt like Reddit mixed with Twitter, except not as appealing. There were pretty glitchy, very disorganized, and wasn’t as useful compared to ASF. I know it’s for temporary when the real ASF comes back, but it didn’t left a good impression on me.

        Don’t take my word for it, this is just only my experience.

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  19. So I’ve been watching the new Monster High show produced by both Mattel Television and Nickelodeon. An episode from a few weeks ago (Horroscare) apparently teased the idea of a possible romantic relationship between Frankie (who’s nonbinary in this series due to explicitly being referred to with they/them pronouns) and Cleo (who’s voiced by Kausar Mohammed, a queer Muslim, in this series). I know no one here has seen the show, but I wanted to talk about this mostly because of how this show was developed by Shea Fontana. The various shows she’s developed (where she usually has some kind of producer and/or story editor credit) are the 2015 DC Superhero Girls show, Whisker Haven Tales With The Palace Pets, Dorothy And The Wizard Of Oz, Polly Pocket 2018, and Action Pack. All of these shows have either little or no romance in them. It’s pretty understandable for the latter four shows since they’re more explicitly marketed to young kids (Whisker Haven is a Disney Junior show, Dorothy aired on Treehouse TV in Canada and would air in the US at very early times, Polly airs on Family Jr in Canada and the similarly younger skewing Kids Street and Universal Kids here in America, and Action Pack is Netflix Jr). DC Superhero Girls 2015 is an older skewing kids show, and does slightly tease Wonder Woman/Steve Trevor, but it’s a very small part of the show since it otherwise puts more emphasis on family and friendship. The new Monster High show similarly emphasizes family and friendship more, though this possible teasing of a romance does seem a bit unexpected from the other shows she’s worked on since they usually don’t make romance that much of a big part of them, or at least tease it as such. I’m not complaining. It’s just interesting to note.

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  20. Apparently, Baby Looney Tunes and Sylvester And Tweety Mysteries will be airing on Discovery Family starting next month. The commercial is slightly misleading since it says “new episodes”, implying a revival, when they just have the rights to air the old shows.

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    1. Discovery Family is being a little loose with the language there. Both Baby Looney Tunes and Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries have been out of production for years, but they’ve never aired on DF before, so they’re “new” episodes for them. Cartoon Network did the same thing years ago when they started airing reruns of Hanna-Barabera’s The Addams Family ABC Saturday morning cartoon from the 1990s, promoting it as a “new” series, when in actuality, CN was just airing the reruns. It was only “new” in the sense that it never aired on the channel before. Interestingly, that one clip of Sylvester talking wasn’t from either show; it was from one of the Looney Tunes theatrical shorts.

      It’s not surprising that we’re now seeing more WB shows on the Discovery owned channels and vice-versa. Corporate synergy and all that. Ironically, we don’t get Discovery Family anymore since we switched from DirecTV to YouTube TV back in June 2022.

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      1. Yeah, it’s already started; WBD are cross-promoting like crazy. One of the Discovery channels (I forget which one) is going to have an entire reality show built around that Barbie movie that Warner Brothers is coming out with. The show is basically a giant commercial for the movie. Shameless, but they can do that now since they own both.

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    2. Yeah, I heard about that. At first, I didn’t believe that mostly because there is no footage of the promo online, but now this is real, and I find it really interesting, but not surprising at the same time. WB has done that in the past ever since they bought Turner back 96′ and they cross-promoted Kids WB shows onto Cartoon Network and vice versa. So, now Discovery is getting that piece of the pie.

      I would say its a bit of an improvement for Discovery Family since it’s not another ended Hasbro show nor a cheap reality show #277, but that’s not saying much.

      Oh, BTW, speaking of Discovery Family, I’ve heard that Hasbro’s contract with Discovery has been extended until 2025. Yippie-Skippie….. /s (eyeroll)

      (sighs) Whatever. I don’t watch that channel anymore, so I don’t really care. They don’t deserved my view.

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      1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Discovery_Kids_(Latin_American_TV_channel)

        I would say that the American schedule is where the variety is lacking. When you look at Latin America (where it’s still called Discovery Kids), you’ll see that the channel has aired all sorts of programming that hasn’t aired on the US channel, from Sesame Street to The Adventures Of Puss In Boots to Wow Wow Wubbzy. That’s insane.

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  21. Yeah…I tried out the temporary forum that the Anime Superhero mods put together, and I’m with @jackelmagnet76; it’s just not worth the effort. The overall look of the temp site is OK, but the interface is kinda crap. You can’t edit your posts, and that’s a problem for me because 9 times out of 10, I need to make an edit for something that I’ve typed for whatever reason. You can’t quote an earlier post either. Maybe the mods will add those features eventually, but the real AS Forum might be back up by the time that happens. I’ll just wait for the official Anime Superhero Forum to come back online, whenever that is.

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    1. Yeah, I definitely feel ya. Although, I did use the temp forum once in a while just to get use to it, but eh, it just not the same as the real ASF. I really hope the real one comes back.

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  22. So one of the more recent episodes of Bugs Bunny Builders (Cousin Billy) showed something that’s ultimately just an Easter egg, but I want to talk about it. The episode has the Looney Builders being asked to build an art studio for Daffy’s cousin Billy Featherbottom. Two of the paintings she shows off are of characters who haven’t appeared in the show yet. One is of Granny with Yosemite Sam and Mugsy (I think that’s his name) and the other is of Elmer Fudd. It’s interesting when you consider how this is (so far) the only time human characters have appeared in the show. The show kind of reminds me of Chico Bon Bon: Monkey With A Tool Belt (another preschool show focusing on an all animal construction crew of sorts) since that show also didn’t have any any humans, though this was a bit unexpected.

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    1. Slight correction: the character with Granny and Sam is Rocky, not Mugsy. Mugsy is Rocky’s big right hand goon. Still, that’s a clever way of working the human characters onto the if they’re not going to appear in person.

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  23. 1. So I saw my schedule for Discovery Family if anyone is interested. Starting May 1, Baby Looney Tunes airs every morning at 6:00 for a whole hour while Sylvester And Tweety Mysteries will air Saturdays and Sundays from 11:30am-12:30pm.

    2. There’s a very interesting interview with Genndy Tartakovsky, mainly in regards to Primal and Unicorn Warriors Eternal. At the near end, he mentioned how he would find it nonsense in thinking that something that may look goofy can’t be emotional. He mentions the scene in Snow White of the dwarves, who are very goofy looking, crying over Snow White’s death, and how it actually has an impact despite how goofy they look. I’m guessing it’s meant to be something of a “don’t judge a book by its cover” statement and how people should give things a chance and see that there’s room for all kinds of storytelling regardless of visual appearance.

    3. Disney really seems to be pushing Star Wars: Young Jedi Adventures (the first Star Wars show made for Disney Junior) as a big thing given how it’s not only airing on the Disney Junior block and channel, it even has encores outside of that (the first two episodes will be simulcast on Disney Channel, Disney Junior, and Disney XD, and it has some airings at like 11:00pm on Disney Channel itself). The show is basically guaranteed to get a second season.

    https://www.pastemagazine.com/tv/adult-swim/genndy-tartakovsky-primal-sequel-unicorn-warriors-eternal-interview

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  24. https://www.animationmagazine.net/2023/04/apple-tv-to-play-with-medicom-toys-berbrick-animated-series/

    There’s this new DreamWorks show coming to Apple TV called Bearbrick, which is based on a toyline. Meghan McCarthy (known for working on My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic and Centaurworld) is the showrunner for the series. This is the third DreamWorks show to come out on Apple TV after Doug Unplugs (a preschool show) and Pinecone And Pony (which isn’t a preschool show).

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  25. Merry Little Batman (a Christmas film that was originally coming to HBO Max) will now come out on Amazon Prime Video. Not only that, it’s getting a spinoff series called Bat Family. It makes me wonder if other WB/CN projects (like the Gumball movie, Scooby Doo And The Mystery Pups, and those 2 Looney Tunes movies) could also get picked up there.

    https://deadline.com/2023/04/merry-little-batman-bat-family-new-dc-animated-tv-series-prime-video-1235338559/

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    1. Batman: Caped Crusader is also going to Prime Video. At least I have Prime Video, even though I never look at it. I can’t get excited about yet another Batman project. DC and Warner Bros. should give Batman a Bat break and focus on some heroes who aren’t Batman or his supporting cast. At least there’s My Adventures with Superman, which will be airing on Cartoon Network and Max simultaneously.

      Scooby Doo and the Mystery Pups has been scrapped by WBD, along with Tweety Mysteries and Family Mash-Up . It won’t be airing anywhere. In the case of Tweety Mysteries, if it had happened, it would have been the first Looney Tunes series to be consciously aimed at girls. But it's not too late, WB. You can always make a Lola Bunny focused series.

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      1. Eh, I can’t shed a tear over the loss of Mystery Pups; my enthusiasm for that show was dampened once I learned that the only OG characters returning were going to be Scooby and Shaggy. I’m tired of Fred, Daphne and Velma always getting shafted, in this case, essentially turning their characters into puppies. If WB wants to do a Scooby show with a puppy character, why not bring back Scrappy? It’s been over 15 years; I think most of the Scrappy hate should’ve subsided by now.

        And sorry, but I legit don’t care about any Batman projects anymore. I’m personally Batman’ed out. I’d like to see James Gunn and Peter Safran’s DCU features less or no Batman for the first couple of years so they can finally give the spotlight to other DC heroes.

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  27. Here’s an article about the upcoming Disney Channel show Hailey’s On It, which was announced before, premiering June 8 on Disney Channel. The show is about a girl named Hailey Banks (voiced by Auil’i Cravalho), a risk-averse but resourceful teenager on a mission to complete every item on her long list of challenging — and sometimes impractical — tasks in order to save the world. Joining her is Manny Jacinto as the voice of Scott, Hailey’s best friend, and Gary Anthony Williams as the voice of Beta, an artificially intelligent operating system from the future.

    Recurring cast members include Cooper Andrews, Julie Bowen, Josh Brener, Sarah Chalke, Nik Dodani, Judy Alice Lee, Amanda Leighton, Joy Osmanki, and Nico Santos. The guest cast includes Brian Jordan Alvarez, Blake Anderson, Mick Foley, Jack McBrayer, Bebe Neuwirth, Chris Parnell, Tim Robinson, Natasha Rothwell, Brandon Mychal Smith, Martin Starr, and Weird Al Yankovic.

    The series is created by the duo of Devin Bunje & Nick Stanton. They previously created the Disney XD show Gamer’s Guide To Pretty Much Everything, but have tons of animation experience on shows like The Replacements, The Emperor’s New School, Phineas And Ferb, The Penguins Of Madagascar, and Turbo Fast.

    https://www.dgepress.com/disneybrandedtelevision/pressrelease/haileys-on-it-from-disney-branded-television-premieres-thursday-june-8-on-disney-channel-disney-xd-and-next-day-on-disney/

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    1. Pass. “Tweens who have to save the world” shows just aren’t my thing. I’m not really a fan of tween shows in general, plus I’ve basically had my fill of quests, missions, villain-thwarting and world saving premises.

      Not for me, but those who are interested can have at it.

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      1. One thing I do find interesting here is that it says that the show will premiere on a Thursday and then drop episodes on Disney Plus the next day on Friday. It makes me wonder if future Disney Channel shows will follow this idea, premiering on Thursday night and then drop on Friday on Disney Plus. Previous Disney Channel shows that followed this general mold (premiering at night and then coming out on Disney Plus a little later) usually did so by premiering on a Friday and then having the show drop on Disney Plus with early episodes on Wednesday (The Ghost And Molly McGee, Hamster And Gretel, and Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur). Kiff was originally going to follow this since it premiered on Friday March 10, but then dropped episodes on Disney Plus on Saturday March 11 rather than Wednesday March 15. It’s worth mentioning that this drop model is in stark contrast to recent Disney Junior shows like Eureka and Superkitties, where they premiere early episodes on Wednesday on Disney Junior, Disney Now, and Disney Plus on the same day rather than waiting for the next day to put them on streaming.

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      2. Yeah, same here. I did saw the teaser today, and I was like, “eh, no. I’ll pass”. The premise didn’t sound appealing to me, and I’m not a big fan of the character designs. TBQH, I already grew out those kind of tween shows a long time ago because it felt so formulaic and corporately manufactured.

        Oh well. I’m not the target demographic for this show anyway. If you guys are interested in Hailey’s On It, then be my guest.

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  28. I know I’ve been talking a lot about Disney lately, but I think this is worth mentioning. Craig McCracken once pitched Kid Cosmic to Disney, but it was rejected and picked up by Netflix. Well, in this tweet from 4 months ago, he says why. The show was originally going to be a boys action show on Disney XD, but Disney wanted to put more focus on animation for Disney Channel by focusing more on having female protagonists. It’s something I find interesting, though I’m not complaining. It’s good to have more shows starring female protagonists, though the fact it seems to be more actively pushed for by higher ups is interesting. When looking at Disney Television Animation, there’s a ton of shows (both currently airing and upcoming) that star female protagonists.

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    1. You know what funny thing about this? As much I really hated their business decisions, Disney did a much better job handling their animated series more than any other company could have done, to some extent.

      If you look at the schedule right now, Disney Channel airs a lot more animated stuff than their live action stuff than the past several years, which I’m not complaining. Though, the only downside is that is lacking variety, but that’s just a minor nitpick. Then again, Disney Plus made DC irrelevant, so what do I know.

      I remember 5 years when Owl House and Amphibia got greenlit for DC, it does seems like Disney want to focus on animation again back on the main channel, which I am so happy because for the longest time, I was kinda annoyed that Disney Channel wants nothing to do with animation as they wanted to focus on live action kidcoms for a song. Even if they did, put them on Disney XD. Now, I’ve nothing against XD, I thought it was decent for what it worth at the time, but it would be nice if DC has a healthy mix of live action AND animated stuff, instead of focusing on one instead of the other. That really makes me irritated at the time.

      I guess due to cord-cutting and streaming, Disney trying to find ways to make themselves for relevant again, and what a better way to do it is to have more animated stuff on Disney Channel.

      That’s why in 2018, during the network’s 35th anniversary, they greenlit Owl House and Amphibia. XD originals like Ducktales, Star Vs, Big Hero 6 being moved to DC. Soon-to-be XD originals like Big City Greens being moved to DC, and became a big hit. Phineas and Ferb and Gravity Falls for reruns, etc. You can tell that Disney was firing all cylinders in one year, and left XD wither away as a Toon Disney-esque rerun channel with no new premieres since then.

      Things were going great until Disney Plus and Covid pandemic came along, and their major priorities has changed in a blink of an eye. Executives has left or changing positions, budgets being slashed, consolidating and restructuring, and with Disney TVA, they changed their format. Disney Channel is the home for episodic comedies for kids, while Disney Plus is the home for story driven shows for families. Ducktales and Big Hero 6 moved back to XD and ended their runs, Star Vs ended and never aired this show again, and the list goes on.

      It has been quite of a journey ever since this change in 2018. Despite some major issues I had with the company, I do give them credit for being one of the better platforms for the most beloved animated shows of the modern era, even if their decisions were very questionable.

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      1. While none of Disney Channel’s current animated fare appeals to me personally besides the Paul Rudish Mickey Mouse shorts (I wanted to like Kiff! but I can’t get into it for various reasons) I’m glad to see Disney take a genuine interest in TV animation again. Same deal with Nickelodeon: aside from some of the SpongeBob stuff and TMNT Mutant Mayhem I’m not really interested in any of the cartoons they’ve got right now but I’m still glad that they’re starting to care about cartoons again besides just SpongeBob and The Loud House.

        If only Cartoon Network would follow suit. They keep promising us pie in the sky and all of these wonderful new toons that are supposed to be coming, but they’re going to have to work extra-hard to regain my trust after last year’s debacle. Maybe after HBO Max because just Max things will be different…

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  29. Remember our CN PM idea? I got a new name for it: Cartoon Network Detour. Inspired by Teletoon Detour, which started out not as an adult block, but a teen block!

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    1. That name I like. I read about Teletoon Detour. I assumed that it was Teletoon’s equivalent to Adult Swim. But, yeah, the name Cartoon Network Detour (or CN Detour) works for me.

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      1. It BECAME the equivalent to adult swim after merging with Teletoon’s adult block at the time, Teletoon Unleashed, but it started out as a block for teens

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  30. https://www.dgepress.com/disneybrandedtelevision/pressrelease/disney-branded-televisions-pupstruction-following-the-adventures-of-an-adorable-all-dog-construction-company-premieres-wednesday-june-14-on-disney-channel-disney-junior/

    So here’s an interesting coincidence. I know you wouldn’t really be interested in the shows I’m talking about, but I do want to bring it up. There’s an upcoming Disney Junior show called Pupstruction, created by Travis Braun, which comes out June 14. It’s coming out within the same timeframe as the Disney Channel show Hailey’s On It, which premieres June 8. Why do I bring this up? Well, the first Disney Junior show that Travis Braun created was TOTS, which also came out on June 14 (specifically June 14, 2019). That show premiered within the same timeframe as another talked about Disney Channel show, Amphibia, which came out 3 days later on June 17. It’s just really interesting how both of Travis Braun’s Disney Junior shows came out on June 14, and within the same timeframe as a very talked about Disney Channel show.

    Interestingly enough, both of his shows are those subject to early renewals since TOTS was renewed for a season 2 on May 8, 2019, and was given a season 3 renewal on August 5, 2020 (which was 2 days before season 2 came out). It’s a similar thing here where he mentioned on August 18, 2021 (not long after the show was first announced) that he was already picked up for a season 2 (though it wasn’t officially announced until January of this year).

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    1. That is an interesting coincidence. Funnily enough, I’ve somehow managed to have never heard of T.O.T.S. before today, but yeah, the similarities and timing on these shows is noteworthy.

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  31. Here’s a fun little interview with Chandni Parekh, the voice of Lola from Bugs Bunny Builders and Harley Quinn from Batwheels. She mentioned at around 18:27 that when auditioning for Lola, she gave 2 kinds of performances, one that’s more grounded and one that’s more goofy and silly. The latter performance ended up being picked, which is a good call since in the show itself, she’s as prone to acting goofy as the other characters. Also of note is that while recordings were done remotely because of the pandemic, she mentions not living that far from Eric Bauza. Them still being within proximity of each other does help in bringing the performances to life.

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      1. I suppose that this news should shock me, but it doesn’t. This whole Adult Swim thing is becoming eerily similar to when Disney launched the Jetix action block on Toon Disney back in 2004. Jetix was only supposed to be a programming block on Toon Disney, but because TD’s lineup was otherwise entirely made up of reruns, the Jetix shows got higher ratings than anything else on the channel. As a result of this, Disney kept expanding the Jetix block, giving it more and more hours until it felt like Jetix was the channel and Toon Disney was the programming block. At this rate, Cartoon Network will become a program block on AS rather than the reverse.

        Silverstar is right. If more and more kids are abandoning cable/satellite TV in favor of YouTube and other internet platforms, then Warner Bros. Discovery should be pushing the kids and family content on its internet platforms a lot harder than they are now. Of course, it’s worth noting that cable TV in general is on the decline.

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    3. I’m not really all that surprised.

      Cartoon Network and Adult Swim are basically the modern day Noggin and The N. Two different demographics shared the same time slots (6am to 6pm).

      Whatever. As long as that block keeps putting people’s butts into seats (along with more green in Zasalav’s pocket), they’re probably not gonna change.

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      1. Exactly. People like Zaslav and his Wall Street shareholders care about money, ratings and shares, period, and while I feel for Cartoon Network’s fans, the Powers That Be have been digging their own grave with CN for a considerable while now, relying on just 2 or 3 shows for the past so many years.

        (Of course, it’s possible that WBD is producing new shows and projects for CN; they did hire new talent, among them comedian Wyatt Cenac, to produce content for the channel, and animation takes more time to produce than live-action. Even if new CN projects aren’t actually coming from CN Studios but rather being outsourced to Hanna-Barbera Studios Europe, that’s still better than nothing.)

        WBD could easily solve this matter by pivoting their new animated premieres to Max, making it the new home for Warner Bros and Cartoon Network shows, with them either simultaneously premiering on CN or they premiere on Max first then on CN the following day or vice-versa. This would both keep kids tuning in to CN and bring new subscribers (as well as keep loyal subscribers) to Max.

        It’s such a simple and obvious solution that I’m surprised no one there has thought of it. Maybe, and this is a very optimistic maybe, the higher-ups at WBD are planning some sort of strategy here and are planning to execute said strategy once WBD begins raking in more profits (since we were all led to believe that the reason why WBD dropped the HBO part from their service’s name in the first place was because they were trying to attract more families and kids) but given their past track record I’m not betting danger money on it.

        I just find slightly irritating how they trot out Michael Ouleween to promise us all pie-in-the-sky news about how they’ve got all this great new stuff planned for CN, then proceed to chip away at it, giving hour after to hour to [adult swim] and farming family favorites out to Amazon Prime Video. They have a serious branding, image and priority problem regarding this channel and that branch of their service and often it seems like they’re just deciding what to do on the fly, making pat choices on the spot as they go along. I hope they can eventually figure things out in a way that doesn’t permanently hurt them or irreparably turn off their fanbase, and do so sooner rather than later. I honestly have no clue what this company is going to look like in three to five years’ time.

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  34. Here are a bunch of titles from Disney Plus and Hulu are being removed from both services as of this month:

    https://discussingfilm.net/2023/05/11/new-arrivals-for-disney-may-2023/

    At least the cartoons and Disney Channel stuff are safe….for now. How long is anyone’s guess.

    I gotta be honest, as much as it’s sucks that most of the content getting removed, at least it wasn’t as bad as HBO Max was last summer. Disney removing some of the content that nobody watches nor interested in them. With me, I never watched any Disney Plus Originals nor really cares about them all that much. There were some I actually do like Wandavision, but that’s about it(and even then, that show was backed up by the popular Marvel franchise). The main reason I got into Disney Plus in the first place was due to a sheer library of old shows from my childhood that I want to watch again. Sure, their originals may look enticing (I’ve yet to see the Mandalorian, for example), but it is just not my interest. It’s not my cup of tea.

    With that being said, I hope the Mouse House put those removed D+ originals and Hulu content somewhere rather than pulling a Zasalav by wrote off those shows as a tax-write off and never being seen again. If that were to happen, I’d be disappointed(but not angry).

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    1. In a perfect world, we’d be getting fewer hours of Adult Swim, not more. It would seem that Michael Owleween’s idea of an “all ages Cartoon Network” is just making the channel 90% Adult Swim. I’m not a huge fan of AS and its current programming, but I suppose that the branding won’t mean much if the shows on the channel are actually good, and if it’s not just action and dark cartoons. Don’t forget about the comedies. Adults like to laugh too. If this is truly the direction that Warner Bros. Discovery wants to take the channel in, then they should probably come up with a more general name for it that’s not so age specific.

      Kids aren’t watching as much TV these days, opting instead to watch YouTube, Twitch, streaming services or play Fortnite or Minecraft and other stuff that kids didn’t have access to 20 years ago. I get that. However, if that’s truly the case, then WBD should be pushing Max as it’s go-to hub for kids and family-oriented programming. They can start by bringing back the shows that were removied from HBO Max last year and running Close Enough on AS where it probably should have gone in the first place.

      Meanwhile, Nickelodeon continues to run until 9 PM (EST). Perhaps kids aren’t skipping TV so much as they’re just avoiding Cartoon Network because CN has been running the same 5 shows (Teen Titans GO!, The Amazing World of Gumball, We Baby Bears, Craig of the Creek and Total Dramarama) in a continuous loop for some time now. Just a thought.

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    2. Last week, The Chicken Squad (a Disney Junior show that aired from May 2021 to April 2022) was taken off of Disney Plus. Since it premiered on regular television, you can still buy it on digital. I wouldn’t be surprised if other one season shows like Future Worm and The Rocketeer get taken off.

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  35. Tomorrow will be June 1st, and there’s still no word on when the Anime Superhero Forum will be back up. What kind of maintenance issues is this site having that it takes 5 months to be fixed? At this point, it may be easier to just build a new site from scratch. Until I’m informed otherwise, I’m convinced that the OG form is dead. However, I’m not going to commit to that temporary forum unless or until more modifications are made to it. The interface straight-up sucks. It’s not worth it if I can’t edit my posts. All things must come to an end, and it looks the AS Forum has met it’s. Well, it was good while it lasted.

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    1. I’m convinced the site is cursed, I haven’t signed up for the temporary forums, and I’ve moved on with my life.

      If the original comes back I’m probably going to dive back in again though

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    1. Why should PBS be different from everyone else? 🫤

      As I understand it, this is at least partially why there’s currently a writer’s strike going on; TV executives want to use AI as an excuse to not compensate writers. Good writing requires subtlety and nuance, something a computer program can’t do, at least not yet. This doesn’t especially bother me, as long as the shows’ producers are using AI to assist writers rather than to replace writers.

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  37. https://d23.com/disney-legend-kathryn-beaumont-to-guest-star-in-alices-wonderland-bakery/

    It was recently announced that Kathryn Beaumont, who voiced Alice in Alice In Wonderland, will make a guest appearance on season 2 of Alice’s Wonderland Bakery. It’s kind of interesting considering how, other than a Kingdom Hearts video game from 2010, she retired from acting in 2005 and Hynden Walch became the voice of her version of Alice afterwards. On another cool note, season 2 will premiere on June 28, which is one day after her 85th birthday.

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  38. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/doc-mcstuffins-creator-streamers-kids-tv-1235508198/

    Here’s what I find very interesting. This is an interview from Chris Nee, the creator of Doc McStuffins. She talks about how Netflix barley promotes their kids shows and they don’t know what to do with them.

    For what I’ve understand, Netflix seems to be selective on which shows they tend to promote or don’t want to promote. Take a live action show like Stranger Things for example, they promoted the hell out of that show to the moon and back and kept people tuned in. As opposed to animated shows, while they did get some promotion, they didn’t promoted as much as they should’ve. Even if they did, they did the bare minimum. For a lot of people, fans and creators alike, it’s very annoying and frustrating.

    I understand what’s she is coming from, but to be fair, it’s not just a Netflix problem. It’s more of a streaming service problem than anything . We all know what happened with Warner Bros, so I’m not gonna repeat myself again. Amazon Prime heavily promote their action cartoons, while their kids stuff was non-existent. Peacock didn’t blip in everyone’s radar and nobody even cares about that service anymore. Apple TV Plus kids stuff was just kinda there, unless they promoted a recognizable IP like Peanuts.

    The only streaming services that actually do promotes their kids stuff heavily was Disney Plus and Paramount Plus. Say what you will about Disney and Nick due to their questionable and shady decisions, which I 150% agree, at least they did a great job promoting their kids stuff on both cable AND streaming and let kids know what shows are on there (especially Disney). That’s why a lot of kids know and trust Nick and Disney brands.

    Something that Netflix and other streamers didn’t have that. I mean, you could argue that it was done for economic reasons since animation is time-consuming and expensive to produce than live-action, while you’re not wrong, but if they want to take the competition seriously, they have to create a strategy (or reinvent their current strategy) in order for it to succeed, not just throwing crap at a wall to see what sticks with bare minimum promotion in hopes that some people will enjoy it. Not to say Netflix didn’t have a strategy when it comes to kids content, they did, and did a much better job compared to cable TV networks at the time. Nowadays, they are no different than cable when it comes to their business decisions.

    The bottom line is that I do agree with Chris Nee about Netflix’s poor reputation about promoting their kids content. But I could said the same thing towards ALL streaming services as well. Not saying I want their kids content to be hyped up to the moon like Stranger Things, but I’m just saying that they need to find a right balance of a smart strategy and good promotion.

    So what do you think?

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    1. I agree with you that streaming services in general are guilty of under promoting their kids and family oriented properties. The blame doesn’t solely go to Netflix, although Netflix one of the main companies that are guilty of this. The thing to keep in mind is that new ideas scare executives. They don’t know how to promote something that no one has seen before, because there’s an equal chance that said show will crash and burn as well as become the Next Big Thing. In the case of Apple TV+, it doesn’t surprise me that The Snoopy Show is more heavily promoted than the other kid-vid stuff on the service. It’s because Peanuts is an established IP; everybody knows who Charlie Brown and Snoopy are, so that’s something that they know that people will tune in to see. I can’t speak for the other kid stuff on Apple TV+ because I don’t have Apple TV+ so I don’t know what else is on it.

      As far as other companies’ promoting their kid-vid properties, I would say that Warner Bros. Discovery is doing the poorest job, as much as I hate to say it being a fan of the studio. Whenever I see promos for Max, the kid-vid shows always get the bare minimum of promotion. Right now, WBD is sitting on 2 potentially lucrative IPs: Looney Tunes and Hanna-Barbera. Both of which I think that WBD could be doing A LOT more with than they are now. I wish that WBD would put 1 or more people in charge of Looney Tunes the way that James Gunn and Peter Safran were placed in charge of DC. Preferably someone who is a fan of Looney Tunes and understands the characters and knows what the franchise stands for. The only LT television project that’s currently on the air is Bugs Bunny Builders. Tweety Mysteries has been scrapped. Bye, Bye, Bunny: A Looney Tunes Musical and The Day the Earth Blew Up are still coming at some point, though likely not on Cartoon Network or Max (which is dumb to me, but what do I know?), and Tiny Toons Looniversity won’t be out until this fall.

      On the Hanna-Barbera side, it seems that unless it’s Scooby Doo or Tom and Jerry, WBD doesn’t seem very interested in it. Sure, there’s still Jellystone, which is good, and also there’s still Bedrock that’s still supposed to be coming to FOX, which still doesn’t have a premiere date announced and it’s likely that we won’t see it until after the writer’s strike ends, but H-B has a big library of shows, and I don’t think that it would hurt the studio to make some new shows or movies based on H-B properties. I mean, come on. The only old-school Hanna-Barbera cartoons that are currently streaming on Max (again, aside from Tom and Jerry and Scooby Doo) are Yogi Bear, The Flintstones and The Jetsons. Granted The Huckleberry Hound Show and Wacky Races are both on Boomerang.com, but why not just have a Boomerang window on Max? Most of the Discovery channels have separate windows on Max.

      On the Discovery end of things, when it comes to producing/promoting kids and family oriented programming, I’m not going to mix words. They stink at it, and they know this. Which is why lately, whenever the prospect of kid-vid programming comes up, they just hand the controls over to someone else like Hasbro and now Warner Bros. instead of doing it themselves. Like Damon (Silverstar) already said: How do they expect people to flock to Max for their kids and family TV shows and movies if they don’t know that they’re there? Why doesn’t WBD actually innovate and try to make Cartoon Network watchable again instead of letting Adult Swim slowly consume the entire channel?

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      1. To Goldstar.

        I do agree that most studio executives are very fickle when it comes to original ideas, because what if a project wasn’t financially sustainable nor was a big hit with audiences. So they wanted to focus on playing it safe; focus on IPs that people recognize, which from a business standpoint, it makes sense, but personally, I’d rather have a good mix of old AND the new, without focusing on one over the other.

        (BTW, I don’t have Apple TV+ either, so I can’t really say how I feel about it. I’m just using it as an example.)

        Yeah, you do make very good points about Warner Bros. The reason why I don’t want to talk about Warner Bros at this point, besides the whole HBO Max fiasco last year, is because they had a great sheer amount of IPs they had at their disposal and they had so much potential to thrive, yet they do nothing with it. Even if they do something with it, they handled it so incompetently. To me, I find it so frustrating since I do love and respect Warner Bros, and they should know not when to fuck up. Hanna Barbara, DC, Looney Tunes, and Cartoon Network are their prize golden geese when it comes to kids and family content, and it’s very irritating that over the years, they didn’t have a clear strategy nor leadership on what to do with their properties, instead they make shit up on the fly and throw stuff at you in hopes to gain some attention and money. Now that Zaslav got ahold of WB, I just threw up my hands and gave up.

        Honestly, I do feel bad for Warner Bros for going through so much turmoil but they did this to themselves since they run by incompetent people who don’t know or care what they are doing. I don’t know how their current strategy is going to be besides the “psychographic” image for Cartoon Network, but they gotta figure it out soon before more problems started to occurs.

        P.S: Yes, I would love to see a Peter Saffern and James Gunn type leader for WB Kids and Family stuff. That would be amazing as long they played their cards right.

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    2. I can’t go too in-depth about Netflix or Apple TV Plus’ strategies as I only watch the former service sporadically and I don’t have access to the latter, but I have Max and plan on keeping it despite everything, so I can comment on that as it’s a studio and a brand that I’ve loved for years:

      Warner Bros. Discovery’s handling of their Kids and Family IPs has been…bewildering to the say the least. I’m certainly not trying to give WBD a pass on this, but just to play Devil’s Advocate for a second, to an extent I can understand why they’re not really aiming to go whole hog on K&F entertainment right now: the Discovery side of WBD has tried to embrace kid-vid twice and failed both times. Discovery Kids tanked, and while I kind of liked it as a concept, anyway, it’s not hard to see why: DK could’ve worked OK as a programming block, but as a 24/7 linear channel, it was way too niche. There simply aren’t enough nature, science and culture themed shows targeting a young audience for a channel devoted solely to it to work.

      The Hub, while better, unfortunately didn’t last much longer; yeah, they came in with the built-in handicap of being co-owned by a toy company, meaning that rival toy companies avoided The Hub like the Plague, meaning they had a hard lining up sponsors (not being able to get toy and game sponsors is not a good thing for a kids’ channel), but there was also the fact that it became clear that Zaslav stopped caring about The Hub the second Oprah Winfrey announced she wanted to launch her own channel, so they quickly abandoned The Hub and immediately went to work revamping Discovery Health into OWN, but that was before they had the Warner Bros.’ library at their disposal. If Warner and Discovery had been together back then, The Hub (or something resembling it) might still be around today. Who knows?

      Cartoon Network, for their part, hung with the big boys for a while, but they could never fully one-up Disney Channel or especially Nickelodeon; Nick and Disney were around longer and have managed to gain an immensely strong following among kids (the name Disney has been synonymous with family entertainment for decades, while Nickelodeon has marketed itself as the #1 kids’ network since its’ inception). As much as a lot of what WBD is doing leaves a bad taste in my mouth, I reluctantly have say that Michael Ouwleween is right: CN started out as a general entertainment network for animation fans before they decided to compete head-on with Nick, and while as previously stated they did do a decent job of keeping up, Nick and Disney have always and likely will always have a leg-up on them in the K&F department, so I can grudgingly understand why WBD is pulling back on this.

      However, that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t try. They shouldn’t be letting Cartoon Network go into decay nor should they be virtually ignoring Cartoonito (though to be fair, they do have a few new projects lined up for each). WBD is never going to be the equal of Disney or Nick, because they’ve been at it longer and have amassed that big a following, but they can still be a decent and strong all-ages presence with what they have now, and while they do indeed have cool established IPs they can rely on, they shouldn’t be reluctant to take chances on new ideas as well.

      True story: the other day I contacted Max with a billing question, and at the end of the conversation the agent/bot asked me if I had any other issues with them that I wanted to address. I was going to go on a full-on tirade about how much it sucks how they’ve taken off so many of their older cartoons and how they should bring them back, but I stopped myself for two reasons: 1) Assuming that the agent I was talking to was a real person and not just a chatbot, they’re just help desk jockeys; they don’t make programming decisions, those come from the top; they can’t change that, and 2) I realized that I was sounding like a retro-snob, and I never want to be a retro-snob. It’s not so much that I want the older HB and CN cartoons (though I would like that, not gonna lie) but I’d just like to see WBD care a little more about the K&F IPs they have now, particularly regarding CN and Max.

      Right now, believe it or not, I think CN has the potential for a good balance regarding their programming day: Cartoonito for little kids, CN for big kids and families and [adult swim] for adults. That doesn’t need to change, but there should be a balance between them and equal amounts of good, favorite, new, and original shows on each, not just on one of them. If WBD can strike that balance, then they don’t need to be Nick or Disney Too; they just have to be good.

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      1. I kinda had a similar idea, but the WHOLE NETWORK, at least on linear, is primarily targeted for adults, specifically YA 18-35 that AS focuses on and kinda still gets, sorta??? Not saying CN will stop airing kids shows, but they’ll capitalize on the adult popularity of them more- not just nostalgia, but pushing new shows as well. Cartoonito would still be for preschoolers, with Bluey being kind of our basis despite being a Disney Junior show. CN has shows at a dual audience of kids and adults, as well as family shows, but also shows made firmly for a YA (or at least teenage) market.

        The difference between CN YA and Adult Swim is that Adult Swim is adults ONLY, like the name implies, while CN’s more “adult” content is still generally appropriate for at least older kids. You’ll never find a TV-MA on the main CN brand, and even a TV-14 is pretty rare. Some of AS and Toonami’s “lighter” shows, like King of the Hill, Naruto Shippuden, and the upcoming Superman series will move to CN proper, as initially intended in Superman’s case.

        Of course, we’d also need a big ad campaign because what good are all these changes to attract a new audience if that new audience doesn’t know you exist. In particular, remember when CN snuck ads for its Cartoon Cartoon Fridays block onto Nickelodeon? Nick does, cause they’ve done it some themselves in recent years. If I were running CN, I’d do it again, amping the “meanwhile on CN” thing you sometimes get on other WBD channels up to 11, with Cartoonito ads on Nick Jr., main CN ads on both Nickelodeon and YA-skewing Freeform, Adult Swim ads on Comedy Central, etc. There’d also be plenty of YouTube and TikTok ads to appeal to that market, and heavy tie-ins with Max for the cord-cutters.

        Essentially, I’d be focusing on the YA focus bigger and making the network an all-ages animation network, like Ouwleen said, but not at the expense of the CN brand- rather, making it the cornerstone of it all, breaking it out of its kidvid hole to become a general audience network again.

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        That’s fine if you’re interested in talking about Netflix and Apple TV since I don’t have the latter anyway, and I rarely watch the former.

        With that said about WBD, here’s my response.

        I can understand your counterargument about WBD not ready to go all in with their kids and family content yet, since Discovery for a long time REALLY fucking suck at promoting and hosting kids and family content themselves, and this is coming from someone who do loved The Hub. I do agree that Discovery Kids works better as a programming block than its own channel. As its own channel, I’m sure Discovery Kids does have its fans(I’m not one of them), but the problem with the channel it just kinda sits there and the company didn’t do nothing with it, and the novelty of being a educational kids channel started to wear off.

        While The Hub is much much better and it has a better strategy and presentation than any other network at the time, but even I would admit that the problem with The Hub is that from Day 1, Discovery’s partnership with Hasbro was the worst of worst worlds, including other factors. If it’s not Discovery’s incompetency when it comes to handling kids and family programming, Hasbro has ZERO experience when it comes to handling a TV network since they are a toy company, first and foremost. Of course, there’s other factors as well like Discovery is more focused on the Oprah Winfery Network than The Hub, Mattel and Lego avoided The Hub like the plague since they don’t want to advertised their competition, it’s on a higher tier cable package and lack a West Coast feed, and lastly The Hub was overshadowed by streaming services like Netflix.

        If you combined ALL of those things together, it is a massive disaster. That’s why Hasbro decided to cut back their partnership and have Discovery took over The Hub, and……we all know how that turned out. Ok to be fair, at least Discovery Family now is…not as bad as it was many years ago, but…yeah, that channel seems like a ghosttown at this point.

        Also, a very interesting question. If Warner and Discovery were to merge in say, in the mid to late 2000’s instead of 2022, then I think The Hub (or something similar) would still be around today, just as long we have someone who has experience within the kids TV business that is not run by a toy company, but I digress.

        As for Cartoon Network, I do agree with Michael Owueleen as well. Cartoon Netwok used to be a all-ages animation channel before it became a Nick and Disney competitor since 1992. As Adult Swim grew in popularity, Cartoon Network becomes a lot more kid-focused over the years, leaving the general audience away from the network. Even though we do get a lot of great shows out of it, no matter what they do, they just couldn’t compete against Nick and Disney since Nick and Disney has a much stronger recognition and much better reputation when it comes to handling kids and family content (for better or for worse). Something that CN couldn’t keep up with.

        However, I do agree that just because CN couldn’t compete against Nick and Disney, that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t try. They should. Competition is great, but they don’t have to compete against Nick and Disney in order to be good. It’s good at being your own thing. Just give us good shows that all ages can watch(and good promotion, to boot). Whatever if it is a old IP that was brought back, new and original stuff, or whatever. As long as they are good, people will watch the network again.

        All I want for Warner Bros is stop dicking around and hurting themselves, and start caring about their kids and family content for a change. Am I wrong for thinking that? Fuck no, I’m not. So that way, I’d have slight respect for Zaslav and WBD again.

        So that’s my take on it.

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  39. As part of a Kids TV summer festival event (for which one needed to register beforehand, hence why this tweet is a recap of what was said), there’s an interesting statement from Disney Branded Television CEO Ayo Davis. She talked about the kinds of shows that would be made for Disney Channel these days. The thing I find interesting is with how songs play a big part in these shows. Generally speaking, if you think of musical Disney Channel shows from before the 2020s, you’d usually think Phineas And Ferb and Milo Murphy’s Law, which had songs in almost every episode. (I guess Tangled The Series could count to some extent). While other shows could sometimes have songs or have music play a big role, they weren’t specifically musical. That’s no longer the case now since, ever since The Ghost And Molly McGee, every Disney Channel show has had songs play a major part in them (Hamster And Gretel [which is from Phineas And Ferb and Milo Murphy’s Law co-creator Dan Povenmire], Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur, Kiff, and Hailey’s On It). It’s definitely an interesting pattern when you consider how it’s usually Disney Junior shows that are almost always musical while Disney Channel shows were more the exception. Now shows for both demographics frequently have songs.

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  41. As part of the Annecy Festival celebration, Disney Branded Television announced plenty of new shows and renewals. The standout among the new shows announced is a Little Mermaid series for Disney Junior that seems to take inspiration from the recent live action movie (though it obviously started development sometime ago). We also recently got the theme song and voice cast for Primos, which seems to be like Disney’s version of The Casagrandes. For series renewals, Spidery And His Amazing Friends is getting a season 4 (making it the first Disney Junior show since Puppy Dog Pals to at least get a season 4 and the third longest running Marvel cartoon after Ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers Assemble), both Firebuds and The Proud Family Louder And Prouder are getting a season 3, and Kiff is getting a season 2.

    https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/magicampers-the-sunnyridge-3-disney-1235642369/

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    1. Okay, I gotta say something about Primos for a bit. When I first heard about the primise that announced a couple of years ago, I was….concerned. Not to say the premise is bad, I thought it was interesting, I was more dreading about the reactions from audiences. People will immediately called Primos a Loud House/Casagrandes ripoff without even giving it a fair chance nor looking a the show on its own merits.

      Now, I did listen to listen the theme song of Primos, and it wasn’t that bad. Sure, it does give me somewhat Loud House vibes, but I think it was trying to be its own thing. Not gonna lie, the animation was pretty good, and I really do like its visuals. It looks very creative. At first, I wasn’t too crazy about the art style of the characters because I thought they looked weird, but overtime I grown to like it a lot. Don’t ask me why. I just do.

      I will watch the first episode out of curiosity just to see how it is, and I hope people will give it a fair chance and judge it on its own merits.

      With that out of the way, looks like The Mouse House has done a bang-up job lately releasing new content on both cable and on streaming. Keep it up, Disney.

      Also, I hate to bring this up: Seeing The Mouse House kicking ass when it comes to announcing new content feels embarrassing for Cartoon Network. I know that Annecy panel for CN is coming out this Thursday, so they BETTER announced something. Especially the ones that has yet to be released. Otherwise, you’ll get crushed by competition.

      Do better, Cartoon Network.

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      1. I hope to god they announce release dates for TDI, Jade Armor, Ivandoe, and Lu and the Bally Bunch, especially considering they’ve been out internationally for a while.

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  42. Yeah……………….

    Disney’s kickin’ ass and takin’ charge!

    Meanwhile, Nick is all IP and Sponge with strangely little Loud.

    As for CN, I’m about ready to declare this network dead.

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    1. “Disney’s kickin’ ass and takin’ charge!”

      Are they? I know they’ve greenlit a lot of shows, but, sorry, maybe I’m just showing my age here, but none of them are really anything I’d go out of my way to watch. Kiff is “eh” at best, Hailey’s On It! looks generic as all get-out, The Ghost and Molly McGee isn’t really my jam overall, but some parts of it that I’ve seen look cute and sweet (I just wish it were funnier and they didn’t feel the need to sing in every show) and Primos looks like someone tossed The Loud House and Encanto into a blender and called it a show. Granted, I’m not the age group for any of these shows, but, nah, call me when we get a new Sensational Six show. Plus, Dreamworks, Sony and even Illumination are royally kicking Disney’s butt in the features department. But Disney is finally taking a break from saga-based action-comedy-dramas, so kudos on that.

      “Meanwhile, Nick is all IP and Sponge with strangely little Loud.”

      The Loud House has simply run its’ course. IMO, it started running out of steam after around season 2. But I do like Nick’s new logo and branding; it is admittedly cool.

      “As for CN, I’m about ready to declare this network dead.”

      Maybe I’m just holding out ’cause I’m a longtime WB/CN fan, but I’m not ready to play taps for this network yet. I wouldn’t call it dead, but it is changing, whether that’s for better or for worse remains to be seen. Their labelling is all over the road, but they are giving the 90’s to 00’s cartoons a place on the channel as well as having some new shows coming down the pike; granted the majority of them are for Cartoonito (Jessica’s Big Little World, Barney’s World, Hop, Karters) or [adult swim] (Unicorn, My Adventures with Superman) the only upcoming CN shows that I know of are Tiny Toons Looniversity and Fionna and Cake, neither of which I’m really stoked about. OK, I admit I’m a little more curious about TTL than before, but I legit don’t care about Fionna & Cake, not being an Adventure Time fan. (We may be getting new Powerpuff Girls and Foster’s Home for Imaginary Friends shows, but I’m kind of over PPG and the new Foster’s show is yet another preschool show. Maybe after they finally lose the last of the Fox shows and things get a little more stable, I may start watching CN regularly or semi-regularly again, depending on what they have to offer. Call me a dreamer, but I still hold out hope (albeit marginally) for this network.

      BTW, has anybody heard anything new about Tom & Jerry Time? Anything at all? It’s like that show just dropped off the radar.

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      1. A 7th season of The Amazing World of Gumball was just teased at the Annecy Film Festival this morning, as well as Jessica’s Big Little World, Invincible Fight Girl and Tiny Toons Looniversity, plus a Gumball movie said to still be in the works. So I guess CN ain’t dead just yet.

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    1. I’m surprised to see Young Love announced for Max (I honestly thought that projects had been abandoned), but the show was never marketed as a kid’s show.

      I suppose it’s good news that Young Love hasn’t been axed, but it still sounds boring to me. It’s just a show about a black family. Where’s the twist?

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      1. Not everything needs to have some sort of twist. My question is, why is this an ADULT series? I know it’s not marketed as a “kids” show, but this honestly screams family-oriented to me. With Unicorn, Superman, and Checkered Past being on ADULT Swim, and now this… has WBD just forgotten the meaning of the word “adult”?

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  44. David Zas and his Funky Bunch seem to be going for a very broad definition of the word ‘adult’ by shoving everything that’s not just-for-kids under the Adult banner; I agree with you, though; there should be a category between Kids’ Stuff and Adult Stuff, a separate label for families and general entertainment.

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    1. And putting everything that APPEALS to adults as just “adult” and under the AS brand continues to pigeonhole CN into the “kids only” bracket, not letting them reach the YA success they used to have with Adventure Time and Steven Universe, an audience that Disney Channel is capitalizing on with massive success.

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  45. “Not everything has to have some sort of twist”

    No, but in this particular instance, having one wouldn’t hurt. I’m just saying, It won’t be easy for Warner Bros. Discovery to try market Young Love as just “a show about a black family who do stuff.” Especially if it’s meant to appeal to the Adult Swim crowd. As tried to have a family-friendly animated comedy once before with Baby Blues, and we saw how that turned out.

    Anyway, I wholly with you guys; there should be a category between Cartoon Network and Adult Swim. True, My Adventures with Superman doesn’t belong in the same category as say, Gumball or Teen Titans GO!, but it’s not Aqua Teen or The Boondocks either.

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    1. If Young Love isn’t a good fit for the AS crowd, then maybe… don’t market it with the AS crowd?

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  46. To Silverstar

    “Are they? I know they’ve greenlit a lot of shows, but, sorry, maybe I’m just showing my age here, but none of them are really anything I’d go out of my way to watch. Granted, I’m not the age group for any of these shows, but, nah, call me when we get a new Sensational Six show. Plus, Dreamworks, Sony and even Illumination are royally kicking Disney’s butt in the features department. But Disney is finally taking a break from saga-based action-comedy-dramas, so kudos on that.”

    Me: Okay, fair enough. I was just talking about their TELEVISION animation department from Disney that was kicking butt, not so much of anything else from the company, especially their recent animated films. Not to say their current or upcoming Disney Channel cartoons are 10 out of 10 amazing. I’m not saying that at all. I’m not too crazy about them either. They just didn’t really appeal to me, but I what I am saying is that when you compared to Cartoon Network, in terms of announcing new content, at Disney got SOMETHING for people to look forward to. Granted, it’s not for everyone, but at least it was something. I was just so frustrated at Cartoon Network for not releasing ANYTHING new this year. Even if they do, they won’t be out until next year, stuck in development hell, delayed, or worse, scrapped (that was until the Annecy announcement. I’ll get to that later). Even freaking Nickelodeon, despite milking Spongebob and Loud House to death, relying on IPs and nostalgia, at least they are releasing new content on a consistant basis (Though I agree, I love the current branding and I’m happy they brought back the Splat logo in a new form. That’s good to hear).

    “Maybe I’m just holding out ’cause I’m a longtime WB/CN fan, but I’m not ready to play taps for this network yet. I wouldn’t call it dead, but it is changing, whether that’s for better or for worse remains to be seen. ”

    Me: I’m not declaring this network dead either. It’s just in a weird state of limbo or stagnancy, if you will.

    Now with the Annecy event come and go, I’d say that I’m very thankful that we got new content coming to Cartoon Network…….that we already know about, but hey, it’s better than nothing.

    I’m glad that Jessica’s Big Little World is coming out this fall, alongside Tiny Toons Looniversity. It’s great that Invincible Fight Girl is coming next year. Gumball getting renewed for a 7th season seems like a surprise considering that I’ve heard they are making a sequel series after the main show, but I guess not. Unfortunately, no word on the Gumball movie though. All their DC stuff are still rolling like Batman Caped Crusader, My Adventures of Superman, Merry Little Batman, Harley Quinn, and all that kind of stuff.

    Everything else? The Day that Earth Blew Up; a Looney Tunes movie title is now changed into Bubble Brains, Foster’s Home preschool show is going to be CG, which is….an interesting choice. A stop-motion project featuring Taz is cool. Young Love is coming soon, which is nice since I do enjoy the Hair Love short a couple of years ago.

    And….yeah, that’s about it. I haven’t anything about Ivandoe, Jade Armor, Total Drama Island reboot, PPG Craig McCracken reboot, Gross Girls, Battu, Craig of the Creek movie, Bye Bye Bunny, or anything in the Annecy event since some of those shows already premiered in other countries and has yet to air in the U.S. I’m sure they will come out at some point, but for now, who knows?

    Before I give out my thoughts on the Annecy event, I heard there is a Max presentation about their adult animation lineup. I don’t have that much say about it since none of those really peaked my interest. However, I have a little to talk about Fionna and Cake. I love Adventure Time, and I like the Fionna and Cake episode when I was a kid, but I’m not interest in watching a spin-off featuring Fionna and Cake. For what I’ve heard from the synopsis, it’s really not my jam.

    With that said, am I excited for it? Well,….not trying to be a debbie-downer, I’m glad we got something, but it didn’t announced anything new. It just a bunch a stuff that was announced from last year without a new original content that was no one was ever seen or heard before that was exclusive for this event. Granted, the stop-motion project featuring Taz and the Harley Quinn spin-off show featuring Kite-Man was “new”, but that’s about it. I was expecting a brand new original project from Cartoon Network, but I haven’t heard anything from it, besides Invincible Fight Girl.

    I don’t know it could be just me, but I felt like WBD was trying to manage the audience’s expectations by announcing stuff we already know and giving some updates, and save the big announcements for their kids and family stuff much later. If that’s what they’re doing, then I can somewhat understand, but in my opinion, they should’ve announced them in the Annecy event, but whatever. It is what it is.

    Honestly, I can’t really say I’m excited for those projects since none of them really interest me (though I’m really curious how the Foster’s reboot is going to look like), but I would say at least Cartoon Network are still producing new content, and it’s not dead that many dumb people online would say.

    “Call me a dreamer, but I still hold out hope (albeit marginally) for this network.”

    Me: Nah, that’s your opinion. I do have hope that Cartoon Network will get better soon, as long things were in a much stable place, but for me personally, as long as the content is good and it really really peaked my interest, I’d might consider watching the network again. For now, I don’t know.

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    1. My previous diatribe was in response to otakuninja2006’s comment. I’m more or less simpatico with you; yeah, WBD didn’t announce anything we didn’t already know about, but it’s just good to know that in the wake of recent events and WBD being its usual crazy self, they at least haven’t totally forgotten about Cartoon Network. I remain jaded but hopeful.

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  47. You know that Bye Bye Bugs Bunny movie that’s (hopefully) coming next year? There’s something about it that I only just realized. It’s the first Looney Tunes animated movie (whether theatrical, DVD, or TV) to specifically focus on Bugs Bunny. That’s definitely quite a surprise. Sure, there have been various compilation movies where he’s in the framing device and he does much of heavy lifting for the Looney Tunes in the live action movies, but they’re not about him. Look at the movies that other characters have gotten. Tweety has two movies (Tweety’s High Flying Adventure and King Tweety). Daffy has a movie (Bah Humduck! A Looney Tunes Christmas, but it’s only 45 minutes long). Looney Tunes: Rabbits Run is Lola’s movie. Taz: Quest For Burger is all about Taz. You’d think the idea of a movie specifically about Bugs Bunny would’ve come sooner?

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  48. There’s also a Bugs Bunny live action/CGI hybrid movie in the works:

    https://movieweb.com/bugs-bunny-movie-in-the-works/

    The big selling point of this particular movie is that this time around, Bugs will supposedly be flying solo. Some of the other Looney Films did focus on only 1 or 2 specific characters, but in each of those, at least some of the other LT characters would appear in supporting roles. As much as I love Bugs, I don’t know if he’s strong enough a presence to carry an entire 60+ minute feature on his own without any of his co-stars. Also, I hope that this movie’s plot doesn’t involve Bugs coming out of the TV and into the “real world”, aka, our world. That premise has been done to death.

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  50. Just a couple of stray thoughts the might make for decent discussion:

    1) Now that the 2017 DuckTales reboot is over, I have to say this about the Duck triplets specifically: Huey and Dewey should have had each other’s personalities. Huey should have been the wanna be superstar, while Dewey should have been the brainy, geeky bother. That’s been the dynamic in the Donald Duck/Uncle Scrooge comics for decades. I’ve thought this all the back in season 1 of the new show. I tried my best to accept this different take on the characters, but I didn’t then and still don’t see the point of switching Huey and Dewey’s characters. I’m fine with making changes, as long as there’s a reason for the change, but this change was done for seemingly no reason whatsoever. But since the new DuckTales is now over, that may be last we’ll ever see of these versions of Huey, Dewey and Louie. Hopefully, we can get a more accurate take on the characters in whatever the next thing that appear in.

    2) Now that that Addams Family Wednesday solo series is a thing, do you think that someone will ever attempt to make a Pugsley series? And before anyone says “Well, there’s not much to Pugsley’s character”, the same could be said to Wednesday, before Christina Ricci played her the movies. If Pugsly’s not very interesting, that’s only because no one ever tried to make him very interesting. Characters don’t develop themselves.

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    1. Agreed on point #1; in fact I’ll add to that I have no idea why the producers of the show chose to make Louie “the evil triplet” when traditionally he’s always been the most loyal of the brothers. This isn’t a swipe at Bobby Moynihan–he gave a great performance and delivered some truly funny lines and scenes as Louie, but looking back, in my mind at times he acted more like an adult than a kid, to the point where I sometimes wondered if maybe they should’ve created a new character for that role rather than giving it to one of the boys.

      I’ve already elaborated on this in Unpopular Opinions (https://twinimages.blog/2019/05/24/unpopular-opinions-quack-pack-triplets/) but for all the crap that people give Quack Pack, that show at least adhered to the more traditionally expected personas of the Duck Brothers: Huey was the showboat, Dewey was the brains and Loue was dumb but loyal. Hopefully the next time the triplets appear in anything they’ll be closer to that.

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